• A new computer setup

    From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to All on Sun Aug 9 23:08:00 2020
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    I currently use a few different computer systems in my routine:
    27" fancy pants 5K iMac - for everything 'pretty'... netflix, youtube, video editing and games
    raspberry pi's (several) - the bbs, home assistant, pihole, etc etc.
    T430s Thinkpad - linux on the go... its old, but maxxed out and does
    everything i need that doesn't need 'pretty'

    I want to build a LINUX based desktop that is both powerful, current (whats
    the new threadripper processor that everyone is talking about...), and fast.
    I have no real cost limitations, but don't do much gaming so... I don't know that I need the BEST video card.

    Anyway, anyone have suggestions of must-have items in 2020? I want pretty looking stuff, like a case-wonder if a smaller case would hold everything i want. A great display. And cool peripherals...

    Any suggestions for hardware?



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  • From Fang-Castro@VERT/FTPBBS to paulie420 on Tue Aug 18 21:36:37 2020
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    Re: A new computer setup
    By: paulie420 to All on Sun Aug 09 2020 11:08 pm

    I want to build a LINUX based desktop that is both powerful, current (whats the new threadripper processor that everyone is talking about...), and fast. I have no real cost limitations, but don't do much gaming so... I don't know that I need the BEST video card.

    I just ordered my 1st parts list to build a computer since 1995 give or take a year. The last computer I built was a 486dx.

    My friend is loaning me a $400 graphics card because I want to play some games (mostly Steam's Tabletop Simulator for Warhammer 40k Killteam).

    But the motherboard I ordered has onboard graphics so you don't even need a video card.

    My order was just under $700 with shipping, here's what I got. The chip comes with heatsink/fan.

    Antec NeoECO Series NE750G 750W ATX 12V / EPS 12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Semi-Modular Compact 140 mm Size 7 Year Warranty Power Supply [$98.99]

    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W 100-100000031BOX Desktop Processor [$184.99]

    Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 64-layer 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS100T3X0C [$134.99]

    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C19D-16GVRB [$57.99]

    ASRock B550M-HDV AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard [$80.99]

    Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L Micro ATX Tower w/ Magnetic Design Dust Filter, Transparent Acrylic Side Panel, Adjustable I/O & Fully Ventilated for Airflow [$49.99]

    Wow... I got a lot of discounts when I ordered these current prices are a bit higher. (newegg.com). Anyways I think this build will last a long time.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Fang-Castro on Wed Aug 19 00:47:34 2020
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    Re: A new computer setup
    By: Fang-Castro to paulie420 on Tue Aug 18 2020 09:36 pm

    for Airflow [$49.99]

    Wow... I got a lot of discounts when I ordered these current prices are a bit higher. (newegg.com). Anyways I think this build will last a long time.

    most desktop computers will go along fine for 5 years or more. your milleage may vary if you want to play all the newest games at max settings, of course.
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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to MRO on Wed Aug 19 22:27:00 2020
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    MRO wrote to Fang-Castro <=-

    Re: A new computer setup
    By: Fang-Castro to paulie420 on Tue Aug 18 2020 09:36 pm

    for Airflow [$49.99]

    Wow... I got a lot of discounts when I ordered these current prices are a bit higher. (newegg.com). Anyways I think this build will last a long time.

    most desktop computers will go along fine for 5 years or more. your milleage may vary if you want to play all the newest games at max settings, of course. ---

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else, its find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.


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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Fang-Castro on Wed Aug 19 07:36:00 2020
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    I just ordered my 1st parts list to build a computer since 1995 give or take a y ear. The last computer I built was a 486dx.
    My order was just under $700 with shipping, here's what I got. The chip comes w ith heatsink/fan.

    Wow... I got a lot of discounts when I ordered these current prices are
    a bit hi gher. (newegg.com). Anyways I think this build will last a
    long time.

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    Right on - I love those small form factor PCs; they loook awesome and pack a punch now a days.



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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Fang-Castro on Wed Aug 19 07:05:56 2020
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    On 8/18/2020 9:36 PM, Fang-Castro wrote:

    But the motherboard I ordered has onboard graphics ...
    ...
    AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost)

    On the AM4 platform, any graphics via the motherboard connectors are
    only on supported CPUs. The 3600 does emphatically not have integrated graphics. Though it's a really good CPU for general use.

    The PSU is probably overkill, ~600W is generally enough these days, but
    supply issues may be a problem. Unless you plan on moving to a top end
    GPU you probably don't need more than 600-650W

    Depending on what you're coming from, it will be a massive change. Even
    my old i7-4790K to an r5-3600 is a massive bump. Currently running an r9-3950X

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dennisk on Wed Aug 19 09:12:00 2020
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    Dennisk wrote to MRO <=-

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything
    else, its find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.

    Heck, mine is 12 years old, I play WarThunder every day. Medium
    resolution gets me 30 fps, which does OK by my eyes.



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  • From Fang-Castro@VERT/FTPBBS to Tracker1 on Wed Aug 19 14:05:46 2020
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    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Tracker1 to Fang-Castro on Wed Aug 19 2020 07:05 am

    The PSU is probably overkill, ~600W is generally enough these days, but supply issues may be a problem. Unless you plan on moving to a top end
    GPU you probably don't need more than 600-650W

    I have a GTX 780 graphics card I'm going to use and plan to add additional drives in the future. ;)

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  • From Fang-Castro@VERT/FTPBBS to Dennisk on Wed Aug 19 16:56:35 2020
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    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Dennisk to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:27 pm

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else, its find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.

    Heck ya! I ran an old 486dx-66Mhz until just a few years ago. My current computer I run my BBS on was a $79 clearance dell from Microcenter. Can't play any games (well, League of Legends works) but that's not what it's for =)

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Fang-Castro on Thu Aug 20 21:55:00 2020
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    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Dennisk to MRO on Wed Aug 19 2020 10:27 pm

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else, its find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.

    Heck ya! I ran an old 486dx-66Mhz until just a few years ago. My
    current computer I run my BBS on was a $79 clearance dell from Microcenter. Can't play any games (well, League of Legends works) but that's not what it's for =)

    You didn't run that as your main machine? You had a newer one that you used, right?


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dennisk on Thu Aug 20 06:37:11 2020
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    On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else, its
    find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without having
    to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.

    I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you are
    and if you've had exposure to a faster computer. I recently upgraded.
    My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a work
    laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my
    desktop. This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system.
    Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.

    If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep
    using it. If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that
    easy. Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work
    on often requires several servers/services in the background on my
    computer, usually spun up in Docker containers. These all take
    resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a significant slowdown. DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful of things
    you're working on and it's noticeable.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 21 08:39:00 2020
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    Tracker1 wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else,
    its

    find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without
    having

    to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.

    I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you
    are and if you've had exposure to a faster computer. I recently
    upgraded. My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a work laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my desktop. This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system.
    Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.

    If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep using it. If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that
    easy. Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work
    on often requires several servers/services in the background on my computer, usually spun up in Docker containers. These all take
    resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a
    significant slowdown. DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful
    of things you're working on and it's noticeable.

    There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart from that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machine I use at work. Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and a Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.

    But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in 2000 with a 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Fang-Castro on Thu Aug 20 16:55:42 2020
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    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Fang-Castro to Tracker1 on Wed Aug 19 2020 02:05 pm

    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Tracker1 to Fang-Castro on Wed Aug 19 2020 07:05 am

    The PSU is probably overkill, ~600W is generally enough these days,
    but supply issues may be a problem. Unless you plan on moving to a
    top end GPU you probably don't need more than 600-650W

    I have a GTX 780 graphics card I'm going to use and plan to add additional drives in the future. ;)

    Get a better video card.
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    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: MRO to Fang-Castro on Thu Aug 20 2020 04:55 pm

    I have a GTX 780 graphics card I'm going to use and plan to add additional drives in the future. ;)

    Get a better video card.

    What a stupid comment.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dennisk on Thu Aug 20 20:12:00 2020
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    Dennisk wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD,
    but apart from that I don't notice a difference between my home
    machine, and the new machine I use at work. Maybe again, the
    tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that
    programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am
    using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs
    and a Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I
    compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do
    that so, so rarely.

    A Doom level editor! Holy crap, that's freakin AWESOME! Didn't
    realize people were still doing that. I tinkered with a few maps
    back in the day and have GREAT memories of all that. :-)

    But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in
    2000 with a 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.

    Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
    usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
    with.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dennisk on Fri Aug 21 03:54:26 2020
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    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Dennisk to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 21 2020 08:39 am

    Tracker1 wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else
    its

    find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without
    having

    to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.

    I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you are and if you've had exposure to a faster computer. I recently upgraded. My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a work laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my desktop. This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system. Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.

    If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep using it. If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that easy. Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work on often requires several servers/services in the background on my computer, usually spun up in Docker containers. These all take resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a significant slowdown. DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful of things you're working on and it's noticeable.

    There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart fro that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machin use at work. Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.

    But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in 2000 with 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.

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    Prety much this.

    I am making more out of my computer from 2007 than many people does from computers from 2015. It doesn't take a genius to realize that if your current old setup is not maxing out neither RAM, CPU or disk storage, you don't really need more RAM, CPU or disk storage.

    What really kills performance is PEBKAC. All my close family has better computers than I do, they use it for web browsing and office. I have an old potatoe I use for office, browsing, compiling and number crunching. And it is much more responsive than the new ones because I take care of it.

    Same with phones, really. A 99 USD Nokia that is properly cared off beats the life out of a 1200 USD phone administrated by a moron.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dennisk on Fri Aug 21 11:30:00 2020
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    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Dennisk to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 21 2020 08:39 am



    There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart fro that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machin use at work. Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.

    But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in 2000 with 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.

    ... DalekDOS v(overflow): (I)Obey (V)ision impaired (E)xterminate

    While planning to help setup a single use PC for driving an information kiosk for a non-profit, Atom powered systems were metioned. When I first dealt with
    Atom CPU's 10-13 years ago, they were horribly under powered for the task.
    I looked at the specs of the newer model, and it benchmarks better than 2013 era Intel i3-3220 I'm currently running.

    Good analogy about 10 year old cpu's. Nearly every year the clock speed and processing power doubled back in the Pentium 1 through 4 years. PC's in an office environment had a 3 year life cycle, however later on I saw them get stretched out to 5-7 years in the 2005-2013 time frame.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Gamgee on Mon Aug 24 21:40:00 2020
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    Gamgee wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Dennisk wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD,
    but apart from that I don't notice a difference between my home
    machine, and the new machine I use at work. Maybe again, the
    tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that
    programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am
    using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs
    and a Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I
    compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do
    that so, so rarely.

    A Doom level editor! Holy crap, that's freakin AWESOME! Didn't
    realize people were still doing that. I tinkered with a few maps
    back in the day and have GREAT memories of all that. :-)

    Yes, I'm working on some Doom levels right at this moment. My most recent release was "DK Shrine 2 - Remastered", which was for Doom 2.

    But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in
    2000 with a 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.

    Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
    usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
    with.

    The operating system you choose here is the key factor.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Arelor on Mon Aug 24 21:45:00 2020
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    Arelor wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Re: Re: A new computer setup
    By: Dennisk to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 21 2020 08:39 am

    Tracker1 wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 8/19/2020 8:27 PM, Dennisk wrote:

    Mine is 10 years old. No good for new games now, but for everything else
    its

    find.

    If you aren't playing games, I think you can easily go 10 years without
    having

    to upgrade, especially if you are using Linux.

    I think it may also come down to what you are doing, how patient you are and if you've had exposure to a faster computer. I recently upgraded. My prior desktop was around 5yo at the time... I was issued a work laptop about 2 years ago that did a few work things faster than my desktop. This drove a desire to get those gains on my home system. Since upgrading my home system everything feels painfully slow.

    If it's all you know, and *it* hasn't changed, then it's easy to keep using it. If you've experienced better/faster it isn't always that easy. Of course another change vs. a few years ago is that what I work on often requires several servers/services in the background on my computer, usually spun up in Docker containers. These all take resources and on even a few year old hardware this becomes a significant slowdown. DB (pg or ms-sql), Redis, Rabbit, and a handful of things you're working on and it's noticeable.

    There was a significant upgrade when I moved the OS to an SSD, but apart fro that I don't notice a difference between my home machine, and the new machin use at work. Maybe again, the tasks are different, but perhaps the only noticable thing is that programs take touch longer to start. But as what I mostly am using now is a web browser, Syncterm, Doom level editor, Emacs and Terminal, perhaps that is why. I would feel the age if I compared something resource heavy, like video editing, but I do that so, so rarely.

    But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in 2000 with 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.

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    Prety much this.

    I am making more out of my computer from 2007 than many people does
    from computers from 2015. It doesn't take a genius to realize that if
    your current old setup is not maxing out neither RAM, CPU or disk
    storage, you don't really need more RAM, CPU or disk storage.

    What really kills performance is PEBKAC. All my close family has better computers than I do, they use it for web browsing and office. I have an old potatoe I use for office, browsing, compiling and number crunching. And it is much more responsive than the new ones because I take care of it.

    Same with phones, really. A 99 USD Nokia that is properly cared off
    beats the life out of a 1200 USD phone administrated by a moron.

    The software you choose, and how you set your system up is what makes the difference. The only thing I've really upgrades it the drive that I have the OS on, which went from a 640G drive to an SSD. I still have the hard disk, but it is for storage now.

    I shudder to think at the mountains of e-waste created, simply because people installed crap-ware, all these systray programs, all these unecessary addons, then couldn't troubleshoot why their system was not taking ages to start up, and simply decided to buy a new one. Some people would rather spend a couple of grand, than spend a small amount of time troubleshooting or pruning.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dennisk on Mon Aug 24 09:38:00 2020
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    Dennisk wrote to Gamgee <=-

    A Doom level editor! Holy crap, that's freakin AWESOME! Didn't
    realize people were still doing that. I tinkered with a few maps
    back in the day and have GREAT memories of all that. :-)

    Yes, I'm working on some Doom levels right at this moment. My
    most recent release was "DK Shrine 2 - Remastered", which was for
    Doom 2.

    Nice. I haven't played in quite a while, but I will again one
    day. Thanks for keeping things moving.

    But there definately is something here. You couldn't get away in
    2000 with a 1990s computer, or even in 2010 with a 2000s one.

    Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
    usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
    with.

    The operating system you choose here is the key factor.

    True. Been on Linux for 20+ years so that affects my thinking...
    :-)



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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Dennisk on Mon Aug 24 21:52:00 2020
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    Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
    usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
    with.

    The operating system you choose here is the key factor.

    I would go even further... I was about to build a new FINAL linux desktop... but, I dunno;

    most of all the stuff i DO can be done on a raspberry pi, or certainly my few thinkpad t430s machines...

    i have a new imac 5k for the pretty stuff, and the 27" system just looks
    cool; so i think that i prefer my many other computer options and think that
    my mac is enough of a powerhouse for me anyway. i suppose i'll put $$ aside easily and wait until that imac runs out of steam for doing the graphical
    stuff that i need. couple more years, johnny... couple more.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dennisk on Mon Aug 24 07:22:00 2020
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    Dennisk wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
    usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
    with.

    I'm using a 2010 computer as my daily driver. Incremental upgrades
    make a huge difference. When this machine was made, it had 8 Gb of
    RAM and a core 2 duo CPU. I bought a core 2 quad CPU for $35 a few
    years back, a hand me down video card a few years before that, and
    will put an SSD in it next time I install the OS. It's running
    Windows 10.



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  • From Atroxi@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Aug 26 16:06:00 2020
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    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Dennisk wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Very much agree, and I assume you are inferring that you can
    usually get by in 2020 with a 2010 computer, which I also agree
    with.

    I'm using a 2010 computer as my daily driver. Incremental upgrades
    make a huge difference. When this machine was made, it had 8 Gb of
    RAM and a core 2 duo CPU. I bought a core 2 quad CPU for $35 a few
    years back, a hand me down video card a few years before that, and
    will put an SSD in it next time I install the OS. It's running
    Windows 10.

    I agree. It doesn't take much to run a system nowadays, especially if you don't play graphics intensive games (or even play games at all). I'm running a Thinkpad T400 right now where I'm posting this from and it does 99% of the stuff that I wanted to do. For the other 1%, I have a desktop running a 2nd gen i5 with an RX 460 and it seems to be quite alright.

    Writing this made me remember the time when I was a kid and the only thing that I used was this office issued laptop of my mother which had 256MB RAM and 80 GB disk space. I can't even remember the processor of that thing, but I wished and wished that I had a more powerful system to play games with. But now, I have a decent computer that does all the things that I want to do and I realize that you don't always need a powerful system, just a system that works for you.

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