• Havens BBS

    From Vlk-451@VERT/INREALM to HusTler on Tue Apr 6 23:00:24 2021
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    Re: Re: eBay
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Tue Apr 06 2021 06:38 am

    Did you take Havens down? I haven't been able to connect on telnet or http.

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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to Vlk-451 on Tue Apr 6 22:01:17 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Vlk-451 to HusTler on Tue Apr 06 2021 23:00:24

    Did you take Havens down? I haven't been able to connect on telnet or http.

    He is having trouble getting it going, it crashed and I have not yet been able to track the problem down... :(

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Marisag on Wed Apr 7 03:47:41 2021
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    Marisag wrote:
    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Vlk-451 to HusTler on Tue Apr 06 2021 23:00:24

    Did you take Havens down? I haven't been able to connect on telnet or http.

    He is having trouble getting it going, it crashed and I have not yet been able to track the problem down... :(

    Maybe post what the problem is and get some log files and we may be able to assist.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Marisag on Wed Apr 7 08:19:39 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Marisag to Vlk-451 on Tue Apr 06 2021 10:01 pm

    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Vlk-451 to HusTler on Tue Apr 06 2021 23:00:24

    Did you take Havens down? I haven't been able to connect on telnet or http.

    He is having trouble getting it going, it crashed and I have not yet been able to track the problem down... :(

    what does crashed mean
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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Vlk-451 on Wed Apr 7 12:17:33 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Vlk-451 to HusTler on Tue Apr 06 2021 11:00 pm

    Did you take Havens down? I haven't been able to connect on telnet or http.

    No I didn't. There's some kind of server problem going on. I can't get a straight answer from the admin so I have no idea if and when it will be back online. Sorry for the trouble. I'll post any updates on reddit.

    HusTler

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Thu Apr 8 00:15:34 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: HusTler to Vlk-451 on Wed Apr 07 2021 12:17 pm


    No I didn't. There's some kind of server problem going on. I can't get a straight answer from the admin so I have no idea if and when it will be back online. Sorry for the trouble. I'll post any updates on reddit.

    HusTler


    hopefully they do backups. i do that for my people.
    not as much as i should, though.
    i encourage them to backup every week [and i make a script that does that] and download the backups.
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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to Nelgin on Thu Apr 8 12:10:08 2021
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    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Nelgin to Marisag on Wed Apr 07 2021 03:47:41

    Maybe post what the problem is and get some log files and we may be able to assist.

    It shows the nodes waiting for conections, but you can't telnet to them it just fails and doesn't show anything on his server...

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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to MRO on Thu Apr 8 12:12:00 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: MRO to Marisag on Wed Apr 07 2021 08:19:39

    what does crashed mean

    It died and needed to be restored, but there still seems to be something wrong with the telnet service.... Dont see any attempted connection in the log file.

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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to MRO on Thu Apr 8 12:14:40 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: MRO to HusTler on Thu Apr 08 2021 00:15:34

    hopefully they do backups. i do that for my people.
    not as much as i should, though.

    I set my servers up to back up every day at 1:00am and keep the last 5 backups. But if you dont save out the backup you want you will lose a usefull backup if you wait 5 days. My backup scripts can also be set to ftp a copy of the backup to a remote server if they have one.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Marisag on Fri Apr 9 03:16:05 2021
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    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Marisag to Nelgin on Thu Apr 08 2021 12:10 pm

    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Nelgin to Marisag on Wed Apr 07 2021 03:47:41

    Maybe post what the problem is and get some log files and we may be able to assist.

    It shows the nodes waiting for conections, but you can't telnet to them it just fails and doesn't show anything on his server...


    fails how? crashed sbbsctrl? is this windows or linux?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Marisag on Fri Apr 9 03:16:34 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: Marisag to MRO on Thu Apr 08 2021 12:12 pm

    Re: Havens BBS
    By: MRO to Marisag on Wed Apr 07 2021 08:19:39

    what does crashed mean

    It died and needed to be restored, but there still seems to be something wrong with the telnet service.... Dont see any attempted connection in the log file.


    come one dude. what does died mean. that's just as shitty as crashed. you should know better.
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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to MRO on Sun Apr 11 09:57:31 2021
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    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: MRO to Marisag on Fri Apr 09 2021 03:16:05

    It shows the nodes waiting for conections, but you can't telnet to them it just fails and doesn't show anything on his server...
    fails how? crashed sbbsctrl? is this windows or linux?

    It was not allowing connections. However after some more fiddling it is showing proper connections. Will post more info after more drebugging...

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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to MRO on Sun Apr 11 09:58:55 2021
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    Re: Havens BBS
    By: MRO to Marisag on Fri Apr 09 2021 03:16:34

    It died and needed to be restored, but there still seems to be something wrong with the telnet service.... Dont see any attempted connection in the log file.
    come one dude. what does died mean. that's just as shitty as crashed. you should know better.

    By died I meant that the sbbs process terminated. Its now showing this ATM though...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Marisag on Mon Apr 12 08:39:40 2021
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    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: Marisag to MRO on Sun Apr 11 2021 09:57 am

    Re: Re: Havens BBS
    By: MRO to Marisag on Fri Apr 09 2021 03:16:05

    It shows the nodes waiting for conections, but you can't telnet to them it just fails and doesn't show anything on his server...
    fails how? crashed sbbsctrl? is this windows or linux?

    It was not allowing connections. However after some more fiddling it is showing proper connections. Will post more info after more drebugging...

    Marisa

    so that's not crashing. so is it windows or linux.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Wed Apr 14 22:16:00 2021
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    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Monday 05.04.21 - 03:34, Arelor wrote to MRO:

    By: Arelor to Zouf on Sun Apr 04 2021 01:48 pm

    Which is why I recommend vendors to charge extra fees when
    taking purchas over PayPal. I am fine if customers want to
    pay over PayPal, but then the are going to cover for the
    extra risk they are introducing in the equatio


    i dont think paypal allows you to do that, unless they changed it.


    They don't allow that, but as far as I am concerned they can shove a
    spiked ball up their ###.

    I'm starting to use Paypal (PP) more and more like a bank.

    The audio book people that I affiliate with:

    https://libro.fm/ashlies

    ..have arranged payouts with a service that offers cheques, PP,
    or direct deposits into a bank account.

    I turns out that their clawback minimum fee per direct deposit
    is $5. For a cheque it's $10. For PP its $1 + 2%. Guess which
    one I opted for. The latter.

    PP is also pretty good for sending people reminders to pay an
    overdue bill. Some people opt for that. The funds in the PP
    account can accumulate as far as I'm concerned for there is at
    least one vendor that accepts PP payments for their product
    after I order a bunch:

    https://www.thebookseat.ca/

    So for now, PP as a bank / slush fund is fine.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sat Apr 17 08:23:38 2021
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    Re: eBay / paypal, et al.
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Wed Apr 14 2021 10:16 pm

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Monday 05.04.21 - 03:34, Arelor wrote to MRO:

    By: Arelor to Zouf on Sun Apr 04 2021 01:48 pm

    Which is why I recommend vendors to charge extra fees when
    taking purchas over PayPal. I am fine if customers want to
    pay over PayPal, but then the are going to cover for the
    extra risk they are introducing in the equatio


    i dont think paypal allows you to do that, unless they changed it.


    They don't allow that, but as far as I am concerned they can shove a spiked ball up their ###.

    I'm starting to use Paypal (PP) more and more like a bank.

    The audio book people that I affiliate with:


    paypal is not a bank and they dont want to hold onto your money. they make money with transactions. they can block you from your money some day just because someone reported you. you could have a crazy dude just try to cause shit with you. it happens to a lot of people
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Apr 17 20:38:00 2021
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    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 17.04.21 - 08:23, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    I'm starting to use Paypal (PP) more and more like a bank.

    The audio book people that I affiliate with:

    paypal is not a bank and they dont want to hold onto your
    money. they make money with transactions. they can block
    you from your money some day just because someone reported
    you. you could have a crazy dude just try to cause shit with
    you. it happens to a lot of people -+-

    OK.. I'm not using it as a place to accumulate for the purposes
    of savings or anything like that for the long term. It's more as
    a temp holding place incase I need to access money to pay a
    vendor who prefers PP.

    Is eTransfer (an Interac-related service) available in your part
    of the USA?

    I find eTransfer even better. With just a simple encoded email
    link, when a person sends me money, it goes straight into my
    bank account. No advance passphrases required. And the
    transaction cannot be reversed.

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    Re: eBay / paypal, et al.
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sat Apr 17 2021 08:38 pm

    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 17.04.21 - 08:23, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    I'm starting to use Paypal (PP) more and more like a bank.

    money. they make money with transactions. they can block
    you from your money some day just because someone reported
    you. you could have a crazy dude just try to cause shit with
    you. it happens to a lot of people -+-

    OK.. I'm not using it as a place to accumulate for the purposes
    of savings or anything like that for the long term. It's more as
    a temp holding place incase I need to access money to pay a
    vendor who prefers PP.


    oh that's what i was using it for. until a crazy person reported me and paypal wouldn't talk to me. so i couldnt access my money. i could only refund all the people that sent me money. have fun with that. you might think it won't ever happen to you but me and other people felt that way too.

    Is eTransfer (an Interac-related service) available in your part
    of the USA?

    I find eTransfer even better. With just a simple encoded email
    link, when a person sends me money, it goes straight into my
    bank account. No advance passphrases required. And the
    transaction cannot be reversed.

    that's canadian banks only i believe.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Apr 18 09:59:00 2021
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    Hello MRO!

    ** On Sunday 18.04.21 - 06:32, MRO wrote to Ogg:

    ... It's more as a temp holding place incase I need to
    access money to pay a vendor who prefers PP.

    oh that's what i was using it for. until a crazy person
    reported me and paypal wouldn't talk to me. so i couldnt
    access my money.

    That is a totally disgusting. But was the crazy reporting linked
    to a buy/sell transaction with another service?

    In my case, I am only limiting PP use to just payouts. The
    incoming are from people who are paying me direct to PP as a
    form to send me payment - that is, there is no online merch
    transactions via a 3rd party. However, overall the activity is
    quite low to non-existant.


    i could only refund all the people that sent me money.
    have fun with that. you might think it won't ever happen
    to you but me and other people felt that way too.

    So... the initial transaction was tied to an eBay/amazon-like
    service where you were selling some THING?


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    Re: eBay / paypal, et al.
    By: Ogg to MRO on Sun Apr 18 2021 09:59 am

    oh that's what i was using it for. until a crazy person
    reported me and paypal wouldn't talk to me. so i couldnt
    access my money.

    That is a totally disgusting. But was the crazy reporting linked
    to a buy/sell transaction with another service?


    dont know. could have been a guy who ripped me off and i reported.


    In my case, I am only limiting PP use to just payouts. The
    incoming are from people who are paying me direct to PP as a
    form to send me payment - that is, there is no online merch
    transactions via a 3rd party. However, overall the activity is
    quite low to non-existant.


    that's how i was doing it.
    still got banned for life. paypal wouldn't talk to me about it.
    still wont.

    So... the initial transaction was tied to an eBay/amazon-like
    service where you were selling some THING?

    i dont sell anything on ebay. all i know is i got banned on paypal.
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